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#147

Demokratien entstehen in der Regel nach einem Sturz von autokratischen Systemen.
In der Regel hat ein solcher Sturz wirtschaftliche Gründe, da autokratische Strukturen zur Korruption und Mißwirtschaft neigen.


#149

Wie in Chile, Argentinien, Guatemala (1954), El Salvador (1991) usw :sunglasses:


#150

Demokratien gehen aus Demokratien hervor!

Ääähhh, Moment.


#151

Ja, der Meinung bin ich auch. Nach den Interventionen der USA herrschten in den oben angeführten Ländern darum Diktaturen, Todesschwadrone und andere typische Zeichen von westlichem Fortschritt.
Man muss die Menschen erstmal vorbereiten - “demokratisieren” … man könnte auch sagen - erst wird aufgeräumt , dann wird die Demokatur “installiert”.
Der Weg ist nun mal steinig und Opfer müssen gebracht werden. Wichtig ist dass Du Dir merkst: Danach ist alles gut.
Lass Elliott Abrams erst mal in Venezuela für Ruhe und Ordnung sorgen… “… to restore democracy in Venezuela.”
Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has appointed a veteran former diplomat as his envoy to deal with the crisis in Venezuela. He said Elliott Abrams would be responsible for all US efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela. Mr Abrams is a prominent neo-conservative who has long argued for an activist foreign policy to spread American values around the world. He served as US Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs in the 1980s under President Ronald Reagan.

Elliott Abrams ? wer isn dass?

2.1 Assistant Secretary of State, 1980s 2.1.1 Guatemala 2.1.2 El Salvador 2.1.3 Nicaragua 2.2 Iran-Contra affair and convictions 2.3 Special Assistant to President Bush 2.4 Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy


#152

So ist es. Stimmt genau.

Elliot Abrams ist ein guter Mann, sozusagen der geeignetste für die Causa Venezuela, den man in den Staaten finden konnte.

Seine bisherigen Erfolge (Career) deuten an, was kommen wird:

  • he assured military aid to the Guatemalan dictator Efrain Rios Montt Abrams defended Ríos Montt as he oversaw a campaign of mass murder and torture of indigenous people in Guatemala. Ríos Montt was later convicted of genocide against the Maya-Ixil population. (Ju den kennen sich damit wirklich gut aus)
  • n early 1982, when reports of the El Mozote massacre of hundreds of civilians by the military in El Salvador began appearing in U.S. media, Abrams told a Senate committee that the reports of hundreds of deaths at El Mozote “were not credible,” Abrams implied that reports of a massacre were simply FMLN propaganda and denounced U.S. investigative reports of the massacre as misleading. In March 1993, the Salvadoran Truth Commission reported that over 500 civilians were “deliberately and systematically” executed in El Mozote in December 1981 by forces affiliated with the Salvadoran government. … Unrepentant Reaganite Abrams claimed that Washington’s policy in El Salvador was a “fabulous achievement.”
  • When Congress shut down funding for the Contras’ efforts to overthrow Nicaragua’s Sandinista government with the 1982 Boland Amendment, members of the Reagan administration began looking for other avenues for funding the group. Congress opened a couple of such avenues when it modified the Boland Amendment for fiscal year 1986 by approving $27 million in direct aid to the Contras and allowing the administration to legally solicit funds for the Contras from foreign governments.
  • Guided by the new provisions of the modified Boland Amendment, Abrams flew to London in August 1986 and met secretly with Bruneian defense minister General Ibnu to solicit a $10-million contribution from the Sultan of Brunei.[19][20] Ultimately, the Contras never received this money because a clerical error in Oliver North’s office

(a mistyped account number) sent the Bruneian money to the wrong Swiss bank account).

Oliver North - bewährte Profis in Sachen Demokratisierung … ebenfalls bekannt aus der Iran Contra Affair => Iran-Contra affair and convictions

Also - wer da kein Vertrauen in die Amerikanische Demokratisierung hat … der ignoriert einfach die Faktenlage und ist Opfer der Aluhüte geworden. Darum haben Merkel und Co das Ultimatum gegen Venezuela ja auch bekräftigt!
Das alles kann nur stattfinden, weil GG79 den Spiegel liest und Honk in der Schule gelernt hat, wie Demokratie geht.

Das ist mir schon klar - aber gut, wir haben da mal drüber gesprochen. Nur tote Fische schwimmen mit dem Strom brrrrritzel


#153

Was ich ich denn damit nun wieder zu tun?


#154

Hier gibt*s nichts zu sehen - es ist alles in Ordnung - gehen sie ruhig weiter !


#155

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#156

Kennst Du diese VT Plattform? CIA Report => Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction

There are no heroes in the Iraq
WMD story, and failure is the only
word to describe it. Moreover, it
was a failure that was largely CIA’s,
although there were plenty of other
participants, and CIA was not alone
in its beliefs. All IC officers—especially
analysts and managers of analysis—need
to be familiar with the
works that will be considered in this
section. The ISG found that
Saddam had destroyed his existing
stockpiles of chemical and biological
weapons after his son-in-law, Husayn
Kamil, defected in the summer of 1991.
But Saddam worked to sustain
the capacity, especially the intellectual
capital required, to restart the
programs once the UN sanctions
were lifted. (9)
The report concludes that Saddam
probably had a capability to produce
large quantities of sulfur mustard
within three to six months at the start
of Operation Iraqi Freedom (March 2003)
and could have reestablished
the biological weapons (BW) program
in a few weeks. Moreover, the
Iraqi Intelligence Service maintained
a network of covert labs in which it
developed poisons and did research …